For General Michael Hayden, playing to the edge means playing so close to the line that you get chalk dust on your cleats. The only person to ever helm both CIA and NSA, at a time of heinous new threats and wrenching change, he believes that to play back you may protect yourself, but you will be less successful in protecting America. Hayden shares how this principle guided him through some of the most telling events in the history of American national security in his new book Playing to the Edge: American Intelligence in the Age of Terror.  Join Hayden for this unapologetic insider’s look that ranges from the beginnings of the NSA’s terrorist surveillance program to the Snowden revelations to the CIA’s role in turning the American security establishment into a highly effective killing machine; told, as he says, “without varnish and without spin.”